Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
raide à la toile
English translation:
stiff
Added to glossary by
Anita Planchon
Jun 12, 2018 16:07
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French term
raide à la toile
French to English
Tech/Engineering
Transport / Transportation / Shipping
boat design
First and foremost it was a project for a rapid sailing yacht that must absolutely not « taper au
près » - a very difficult condition for the new lengthened version. If she was to be fast, she had to be relatively
light and « raide à la toile » - and if light, she might slam too hard.
près » - a very difficult condition for the new lengthened version. If she was to be fast, she had to be relatively
light and « raide à la toile » - and if light, she might slam too hard.
Proposed translations
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| 5 +1 | stiff |
Anita Planchon
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| 3 | transversely/laterally stable |
mrrafe
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Jun 18, 2018 08:26: Anita Planchon Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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stiff
The technical term would be "initial stability" which is the stability of the boat when pressure is applied to the sails, but to go with the rest of the sentence, I would simply say the boat needed to be "light and stiff".
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The reason I haven't suggested "stiff under sail" is that "stiff" in this case means that it is stable "when under sail", so there's no need.
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Note added at 1 hr (2018-06-12 17:33:06 GMT)
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The reason I haven't suggested "stiff under sail" is that "stiff" in this case means that it is stable "when under sail", so there's no need.
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transversely/laterally stable
Stiffness in this context means the boat resists being moved sideways by the force of the wind. Transverse or lateral stability. I don't know whether there's a more colloquial term for this.
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Maybe the colloquialism is "stiff to the wind." https://www.alubat.com/ovni-445
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Note added at 36 mins (2018-06-12 16:44:01 GMT)
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Maybe the colloquialism is "stiff to the wind." https://www.alubat.com/ovni-445
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Sometimes Wikipedia can be helpful, plus others
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raideur_à_la_toile
https://books.google.fr/books?id=_am8AQAAQBAJ&pg=PT147&lpg=P...
"A sailing boat which has good stability is said to be 'stiff' under sail; bu a boat of poor stability is said to be 'crank' under sail, which implies a tendency to capsize."
Oxford A-Z of Sailing Terms, Dear, I. and Kemp, P. :
"stiff... indicates that she returns quickly to the vertical when rolling in a heavy seaway and, when applied to a vessel under sail, is one that stands up well to her canvas. This is a function of the metacentric height which has been built into the ship..."
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Also, CLouet, A. G., Dictionnaire technique maritime, La Maison du dictionnaire:
"raide : stiff (nav); qualifie un navire ayant un couple de rappel très fort, ce qui donne un roulis court et rapide. (Anton. : mou)."
"raide (à la toile) : stiff (yacht); qualifie un voilier qui résiste au vent sans trop gîter."
https://books.google.fr/books?id=_am8AQAAQBAJ&pg=PT147&lpg=P...
"A sailing boat which has good stability is said to be 'stiff' under sail; bu a boat of poor stability is said to be 'crank' under sail, which implies a tendency to capsize."
Oxford A-Z of Sailing Terms, Dear, I. and Kemp, P. :
"stiff... indicates that she returns quickly to the vertical when rolling in a heavy seaway and, when applied to a vessel under sail, is one that stands up well to her canvas. This is a function of the metacentric height which has been built into the ship..."
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Note added at 1 hr (2018-06-12 18:05:50 GMT)
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Also, CLouet, A. G., Dictionnaire technique maritime, La Maison du dictionnaire:
"raide : stiff (nav); qualifie un navire ayant un couple de rappel très fort, ce qui donne un roulis court et rapide. (Anton. : mou)."
"raide (à la toile) : stiff (yacht); qualifie un voilier qui résiste au vent sans trop gîter."
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