Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

fumoir

English translation:

bee smoker

Added to glossary by Jenny Cowd
Oct 8, 2010 07:06
13 yrs ago
French term

fumoir

French to English Other Other candle making
L’espace devient un cabinet de curiosité où les gravures éclairent le passé et où les grands cierges, les fumoirs, côtoient les chandeliers et les objets anciens.
Proposed translations (English)
3 +2 bee smoker
5 +1 smoking room/ smoking lounge

Discussion

CKSTraductions Oct 11, 2010:
gravures - lithographies
CKSTraductions Oct 8, 2010:
Is it not an incense burner - thurible for a church? I've found ensensoir
Bourth (X) Oct 8, 2010:
In French, I meant. -
Travelin Ann Oct 8, 2010:
A few hits for "smoky candles" and "smokey candles"
Bourth (X) Oct 8, 2010:
Smokey candles I had no luck Googling that, also one of my lines of thought. But neologism lives!
Tony M Oct 8, 2010:
fumoirs / gravures I can't help wondering if 'fumoir' isn't some old or colloquial word for something like a 'smokey Joe' — I have seen a distinction made in FR between 'proper', clean-burning 'cierges' made of beeswax, and the type of candles used by poorer folk, in EN 'tallow candles', which were notoriously smokey when burning. This would seem to be consistent with the list you have.

As for 'gravures', I think these are just conventional 'prints' — it seems to me that the writer is making a pun on 'éclairer', with its literal sense of 'to light or illuminate' (i.e. the candles etc.) and its more figurative use of 'to explain' (something that might be done visually by prints hanging on the walls, for example).

Does any of the above make sense in the light of your wider context?
Jenny Cowd (asker) Oct 8, 2010:
thank you bourth, that would definitely make sense. does anyone have any idea what is referred to by "gravures" here? perhaps engraved candles???
Jenny Cowd (asker) Oct 8, 2010:
I don't think it fits in this context though... doesn't make a lot of sense..

Proposed translations

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30 mins
French term (edited): ENfumoir
Selected

bee smoker

Given that a fumoir is either a device or a room for smoking meats or fish, or a room where smokers hammer nails into their coffins, they have to mean another word.

An enfumoir is a "bee smoker", the device beekeepers use for hammering nails into tiny little coffins for their wards.

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Note added at 2 hrs (2010-10-08 09:31:38 GMT)
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Here, a fumoir appears to be a device for burning dried lavander :
http://s2.e-monsite.com/2010/05/18/62846134les-lavandiers-pd...
(not cut/pastable, nor can you search for the word in the text).

I imagine it like those incense burners choir boys swing (at molesting priests).

And here we have fumoir used where enfumoir is meant:
Je me souviens d'un apiculteur , qui ne mettait pas de protections , il avait juste un FUMOIR .Il agissait avec des mouvements lents , observait l'humeur des abeilles en fonction de la météo
http://apres.petrole.online.fr/f/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=370&st...
Peer comment(s):

agree Alison Sabedoria (X) : Quite possible if these candles are made of beeswax, otherwise odd.
52 mins
agree Constantinos Faridis (X)
1 hr
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "still a bit of a mystery but this is definitely the most likely suggestion, thank you!"
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11 mins

smoking room/ smoking lounge

Smoking room (or smoking lounge) refers to a room which is specifically used ...
en.wikipedia.org/.../Smoking_room

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Note added at 17 λεπτά (2010-10-08 07:24:11 GMT)
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fumoir
nom masculin singulier
1 endroit où l'on fume des aliments
2 pièce réservée aux fumeurs

Translation French - Definition Collins Dictionary [Suggest a new translation / definition.]
Peer comment(s):

neutral writeaway : how can it be a room given the context?
37 mins
neutral Tony M : I really don't see how this could fit with the other items in the list
1 hr
agree CKSTraductions : it is smoking room, if you look at the wikepédia fr ref http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fumoir it clearly states that this room was often situated between the curiosities room and the boudoir.
3 days 3 hrs
merci
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