Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
chauffage hors gel
English translation:
frost-protection heating
Added to glossary by
Philip Taylor
Oct 27, 2005 19:38
18 yrs ago
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French term
chauffage hors gel
French to English
Tech/Engineering
Engineering (general)
"Compte tenu des nombreux dysfonctionnements constatés sur le réseau, l'Assemblée Générale décide la suppression du service de chauffage hors gel."
From a French housing association meeting report. I'm sure this is something simple, but I can't seem to find a reference for it and am under pressure for a deadline. Anyone know how it should be translated?
From a French housing association meeting report. I'm sure this is something simple, but I can't seem to find a reference for it and am under pressure for a deadline. Anyone know how it should be translated?
Proposed translations
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| 4 +7 | frost-protection (heating) |
Tony M
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| 4 +3 | antifrost heating system |
Dr Sue Levy (X)
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| 3 +2 | ambiguous |
Bourth (X)
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| 4 | they decided to turn off the heating and only to use it |
CMJ_Trans (X)
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| 4 -1 | decommissioning / shut down of heating |
Emanuela Galdelli
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Proposed translations
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1 hr
Selected
frost-protection (heating)
I think you'll find this is a sub-system of the heating, used to prevent the system from freezing. I do NOT believe it means 'stop heating except during freeze-ups', but rather 'the heating that prevents freezing'
'hors gel' is a common enough term sued to mean 'frost protection'
'hors gel' is a common enough term sued to mean 'frost protection'
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "This seems the most likely solution to me. Many thanks to everyone who answered/commented."
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decommissioning / shut down of heating
I think that it makes reference to the decommissioning of the system, due to malfunctioning.
An idea.
An idea.
14 mins
they decided to turn off the heating and only to use it
at sub-zero temperatures
In other words, they will keep it off at all times other than when it is really cold
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Note added at 2005-10-27 19:54:45 (GMT)
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Think about it: the system is not working properly - could even be dangerous perhaps - so it\'s safer to turn it off. However at freezing temperatures, they will use it so people don\'t die of cold and/or the pipes freeze and what have you...
In other words, they will keep it off at all times other than when it is really cold
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Note added at 2005-10-27 19:54:45 (GMT)
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Think about it: the system is not working properly - could even be dangerous perhaps - so it\'s safer to turn it off. However at freezing temperatures, they will use it so people don\'t die of cold and/or the pipes freeze and what have you...
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Kate Hudson (X)
: This is right - the heating will only run to avoid pipes freezing -many thermostats have this function -no actual heating when it is set to chauffage hors gel only keeping it frost-free
21 mins
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| disagree |
Tony M
: No, I'm pretty sure that's the whole point; it's the very freeze-prevention heating itself that is to be stopped
1 hr
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1 hr
antifrost heating system
As I read it, it is this service they are stopping.
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Note added at 1 hr 26 mins (2005-10-27 21:05:19 GMT)
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http://www.elektra-underfloor-heating.co.uk/pdf/selftec-manu...
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Note added at 1 hr 26 mins (2005-10-27 21:05:19 GMT)
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http://www.elektra-underfloor-heating.co.uk/pdf/selftec-manu...
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Bourth (X)
: It's ambiguous, but I read it this way too.
6 mins
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thanks!
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| agree |
Tony M
: Yes, I'm pretty sure this is the normal interpetation --- you often see systems marked with a 'hors gel' position
14 mins
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thanks!
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| agree |
Richard Hedger
: this is what I have understood
11 hrs
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thanks!
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1 hr
ambiguous
Without fuller context, this appears to be ambiguous.
They could be turning off the heat, except when there is a frost (hors période de gel). Now that is a bit tough of residents who feel the cold, especially the elderly and the infirm. I for one like to have the heating on when the temp. drops below 12°C. Until then I can manage with extra clothing, but I'm damned if I'll wait until it freezes before I turn the heating on!
"hors gel", however, refers to the systems incorporated in modern heating where the heat will come on just enough to prevent the pipes bursting. Since there is a time lag effect, the heating actually has to come on several degrees before the temperature actually reaches freezing. In cities in most part of France, I should think, this is unnecessary, since the temp. inside (large) city buildings rarely drops below freezing.
Given what they say about maintenance problems, it seems logical to me that they are talking about the latter case, i.e. they have turned off the "frost coils" or "froststats - An automatic control, a type of thermostat that switches on the heat when the circulating water temperature falls to nearly 0°C" [Scott/Penguin Dict. of Bldg]
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Note added at 13 hrs 4 mins (2005-10-28 08:43:43 GMT)
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As I say, it seems most logical to me that it should be what Dusty calls "frost protection", and that is prob. what I would call it too were I not to have looked in the Scott/Penguin Dict. of Building where the definitions of the term apply to 1) protection of building materials (cement, brick mortar, plasterwork, etc.) from frost while they set, and 2) setting water mains at sufficient depth to avoid freezing, with the corollory that water entering the building is not too cold, and 3) lagging on pipes and cisterns. Despite that, which is intended as explanation, not rebuttal, I support "frost protection" 100%!
They could be turning off the heat, except when there is a frost (hors période de gel). Now that is a bit tough of residents who feel the cold, especially the elderly and the infirm. I for one like to have the heating on when the temp. drops below 12°C. Until then I can manage with extra clothing, but I'm damned if I'll wait until it freezes before I turn the heating on!
"hors gel", however, refers to the systems incorporated in modern heating where the heat will come on just enough to prevent the pipes bursting. Since there is a time lag effect, the heating actually has to come on several degrees before the temperature actually reaches freezing. In cities in most part of France, I should think, this is unnecessary, since the temp. inside (large) city buildings rarely drops below freezing.
Given what they say about maintenance problems, it seems logical to me that they are talking about the latter case, i.e. they have turned off the "frost coils" or "froststats - An automatic control, a type of thermostat that switches on the heat when the circulating water temperature falls to nearly 0°C" [Scott/Penguin Dict. of Bldg]
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Note added at 13 hrs 4 mins (2005-10-28 08:43:43 GMT)
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As I say, it seems most logical to me that it should be what Dusty calls "frost protection", and that is prob. what I would call it too were I not to have looked in the Scott/Penguin Dict. of Building where the definitions of the term apply to 1) protection of building materials (cement, brick mortar, plasterwork, etc.) from frost while they set, and 2) setting water mains at sufficient depth to avoid freezing, with the corollory that water entering the building is not too cold, and 3) lagging on pipes and cisterns. Despite that, which is intended as explanation, not rebuttal, I support "frost protection" 100%!
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
David Goward
: with the last two paragraphs - don't feel that it's particularly ambiguous though!
5 hrs
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| agree |
Tony M
: I would echo DG's comment!
18 hrs
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