Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
fusil à tabatière
English translation:
breech-loading (rifle)
Added to glossary by
Rebecca Davis
Mar 9, 2010 13:42
14 yrs ago
French term
fusil à tabatière
French to English
Social Sciences
Anthropology
Old Weapon
Context: History of the gallery
a particular room '... accueillait un atelier transformant les armes usagees en fusils en tabatiere.'
a particular room '... accueillait un atelier transformant les armes usagees en fusils en tabatiere.'
Proposed translations
(English)
4 +2 | breach-loading (rifle) | Rebecca Davis |
2 +1 | hinged block gun | Catharine Cellier-Smart |
References
Well this is a pic of it, but you need a... | liz cencetti (X) |
Change log
Mar 9, 2010 15:12: Stéphanie Soudais changed "Term asked" from "tabatiere" to "fusil à tabatière" , "Field (write-in)" from "exhibition at a large gallery in Paris" to "Old Weapon"
Mar 21, 2010 11:50: Rebecca Davis Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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8 mins
French term (edited):
tabatiere
Selected
breach-loading (rifle)
I think this is the right term
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Note added at 8 mins (2010-03-09 13:51:37 GMT)
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Sorry, that should be "breech-loading", but it is the right term.
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Note added at 10 mins (2010-03-09 13:52:46 GMT)
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This is actually one of several references
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chassepot
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Note added at 1 hr (2010-03-09 15:39:51 GMT)
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Here is another reference that makes things a little clearer...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabatière_rifle
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Note added at 8 mins (2010-03-09 13:51:37 GMT)
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Sorry, that should be "breech-loading", but it is the right term.
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Note added at 10 mins (2010-03-09 13:52:46 GMT)
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This is actually one of several references
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chassepot
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Note added at 1 hr (2010-03-09 15:39:51 GMT)
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Here is another reference that makes things a little clearer...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabatière_rifle
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Liliane Hatem
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Thank you
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agree |
Alison Sabedoria (X)
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Thank you
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Jim Tucker (X)
: After a little research, I think that while the T is a breechloader, b. is a large category; asker may want "tabatière-style breechloading rifles" (i.e., very few b.s have the hinged compartment).//Your wiki says the t is "a b-l rifle", but not a synonym
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B D Finch
: Would agree, but the link from your ref. to the Tabatiere itself shows it to have been a muzzle- to breach-loading conversion system.
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Have found a reference which is a little clearer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabatière_rifle
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks very much Rebecca, and especially, also, to Jim Tucker."
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12 mins
French term (edited):
tabatiere
hinged block gun
this website translates fusil à tabatière as hinged-block gun.
However it's the only reference on the internet, hence low confidence level as nothing else to confirm it.
http://tinyurl.com/y8bvvhx
However it's the only reference on the internet, hence low confidence level as nothing else to confirm it.
http://tinyurl.com/y8bvvhx
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Jim Tucker (X)
: This is a good description if one has to use the English; another option would be "tabatiere breechloading rifle"; these were all converted muzzle-loaders. Reference in discussion above.
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thank you Jim; interesting link.
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Reference comments
11 mins
Reference:
Well this is a pic of it, but you need a specialist in old weapons to find the name (if there is one) in English.
Discussion
See here for details:
http://www.militaryrifles.com/france/Tabatier.htm
Impressive research...
http://www.quaibranly.fr/uploads/tx_gayafeespacepresse/MQB_C...