Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Hebrew term or phrase:
מושבה / ישוב קהילתי
English translation:
Moshava (rural village-like community)
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Lingopro
Dec 11, 2008 13:24
15 yrs ago
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Hebrew term
מושבה / ישוב קהילתי
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Proposed translations
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| 3 | Moshava/ village-like settlement |
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| 3 +1 | Moshava/Communal settlement |
Shai Navé
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Moshava/ village-like settlement
There are distinct settlements called moshavot which stand on their own, but there is also the use of the word to connote something like "Moshava Germanit" which is a section of a larger city having its own character. I am thinking the closest to this meaning would be, for example, places like Greenwich Village in New York or Highgate Village in London, both of which are part of a larger city but have their own distinctive character. I don't know if this is what you have in mind but put it forward for consideration.
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Note added at 1 hr (2008-12-11 15:09:24 GMT)
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Wikipedia gives "rural settlement" in its definition.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moshava
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Note added at 1 hr (2008-12-11 15:09:24 GMT)
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Wikipedia gives "rural settlement" in its definition.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moshava
Note from asker:
| Thank you! Village was my first thought (like Benyamina, Zichron Yaacov... not like Petah Tikva which may have been the first Moshava but is totally a city today). |
3 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you. I will use: Moshava (rural village-like community)"
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Moshava/Communal settlement
I don't know how to explain it more it speaks for itself
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Note added at 8 mins (2008-12-11 13:32:56 GMT)
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Moshava could also be settlement (it just occurred to me), but in the Israeli context Moshava is the better option in my opinion.
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Note added at 29 mins (2008-12-11 13:53:26 GMT)
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I don't know if a person from the US will understand it. You can ask the same thing about the word Kibbutz. You can write Moshave (a type of rural settlement in Israel).
Communal settlement is not a term that describes old moshavot but a rather different type of settlement than moshava. I don't really know how to explain the differences (because I'm not sure that I am aware to all), but they are without a doubt two different types of settlement, and chronologically, moshavot came before communal settlements.
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Note added at 23 hrs (2008-12-12 12:49:40 GMT) Post-grading
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Choose whatever you think is best, and I don't care about the points.
But just let me point you to a short explanation in my answer that I added as a note. I suggested that you will use the following explanation in your translation: "Moshava (a type of rural settlement in Israel)" (see my notes from 29 minutes) - I suggested that you write this text in order to use the "official" name, but also provide a general information about it's meaning. This is actually what you have ultimately chosen, but I was the first to suggest it.
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Note added at 8 mins (2008-12-11 13:32:56 GMT)
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Moshava could also be settlement (it just occurred to me), but in the Israeli context Moshava is the better option in my opinion.
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Note added at 29 mins (2008-12-11 13:53:26 GMT)
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I don't know if a person from the US will understand it. You can ask the same thing about the word Kibbutz. You can write Moshave (a type of rural settlement in Israel).
Communal settlement is not a term that describes old moshavot but a rather different type of settlement than moshava. I don't really know how to explain the differences (because I'm not sure that I am aware to all), but they are without a doubt two different types of settlement, and chronologically, moshavot came before communal settlements.
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Note added at 23 hrs (2008-12-12 12:49:40 GMT) Post-grading
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Choose whatever you think is best, and I don't care about the points.
But just let me point you to a short explanation in my answer that I added as a note. I suggested that you will use the following explanation in your translation: "Moshava (a type of rural settlement in Israel)" (see my notes from 29 minutes) - I suggested that you write this text in order to use the "official" name, but also provide a general information about it's meaning. This is actually what you have ultimately chosen, but I was the first to suggest it.
Note from asker:
| Shai, thanks. Would a person in the US for eg understand what Moshava means without needing an explanation? And is Communal settlement common use for "old" moshavot? |
| That is precisely why I asked since I need the old moshavot term not the communal settlements. Thanks for clarifying. |
| Shai, thanks! Although you were first with Moshava, (which I will use) it's the explanation of moshava that I need, and here I will go with the village explanation (rural village-like community). Thanks for your input! |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Ron Armon
: I agree - Moshava. BTW - I'm not sure those two really fit together as implied by the "/": I don't think the Moshavot (Petach Tikva, Rosh Pina etc.) resemble/resembled today's communal settlements more than the Kfar or the Moshav do/did.
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