Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
Arkandisziplin / Arkanprinzip
English translation:
disciplina arcani / tenet of silence
Added to glossary by
Gabriele Jabouri
Jan 17, 2007 21:17
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German term
Arkandisziplin / Arkanprinzip
German to English
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Religion
Christian principle
Context: "Im Christentum wurde das mystische Schweigen seit dem 17. Jhdt. "Arkandisziplin" genannt."
Wikipedia defines "Arkanprinzip" as: Das Arkanprinzip (von lateinisch arcanum – „Geheimnis“) ist der Grundsatz, Kultbräuche und Rituale nur einem Kreis von Eingeweihten zugänglich zu machen und sie vor der Öffentlichkeit geheimzuhalten.
Is there a "terminus technicus" in English for this? I could use "vow of silence" or "obligation of silence" or "keeping secret", but I wonder whether there is an "official" English expression.
Thanks in advance!
Gabriele
Wikipedia defines "Arkanprinzip" as: Das Arkanprinzip (von lateinisch arcanum – „Geheimnis“) ist der Grundsatz, Kultbräuche und Rituale nur einem Kreis von Eingeweihten zugänglich zu machen und sie vor der Öffentlichkeit geheimzuhalten.
Is there a "terminus technicus" in English for this? I could use "vow of silence" or "obligation of silence" or "keeping secret", but I wonder whether there is an "official" English expression.
Thanks in advance!
Gabriele
Proposed translations
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arcane discipline / disciplina arcani
Contrary to your assertion that this phrase cannot be used, I assert that the word "discipline" is not just "a discipline = a praxis", but also "discipline = a set of rules of behaviour".
So semantically, the "arcane discipline" could be exactly what you describe.
Googling this gave a few differing examples:
http://www.lcms.org/ca/www/cyclopedia/02/display.asp?t1=D&t2...
Disciplina arcani
(Lat. “discipline of the secret”). Term used since the 17th c. for the withholding of certain parts of Christian teaching and worship from pagans and from catechumens till the last stages of their preparation. Some scholars find an approach to this practice in some NT books (e.g., Rv). Justin* Martyr seems not to know the practice but there may be traces of it in the ch. order ascribed to Hippolytus* of Rome. The most extensive use occurs in the era of mass conversions after the end of the persecutions AD 313 (see Persecution of Christians, 4). At this time it included the rites, ceremonies, and statements of the significance of Baptism and Holy Communion, and such liturgical forms as the Creed and the Lord's Prayer. The arcane discipline disappeared almost wholly in the 5th c. ACP
http://www.phoenixmasonry.org/arcane_schools/part_3.htm
ARCANE DISCIPLINE. This system was in vogue in the church of Christ between the first and fourth centuries of our era. ....
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Here's a very extensive entry, which directly links the above Latin term to your German term, under the English entry
"Discipline of the secret"
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05032a.htm
So semantically, the "arcane discipline" could be exactly what you describe.
Googling this gave a few differing examples:
http://www.lcms.org/ca/www/cyclopedia/02/display.asp?t1=D&t2...
Disciplina arcani
(Lat. “discipline of the secret”). Term used since the 17th c. for the withholding of certain parts of Christian teaching and worship from pagans and from catechumens till the last stages of their preparation. Some scholars find an approach to this practice in some NT books (e.g., Rv). Justin* Martyr seems not to know the practice but there may be traces of it in the ch. order ascribed to Hippolytus* of Rome. The most extensive use occurs in the era of mass conversions after the end of the persecutions AD 313 (see Persecution of Christians, 4). At this time it included the rites, ceremonies, and statements of the significance of Baptism and Holy Communion, and such liturgical forms as the Creed and the Lord's Prayer. The arcane discipline disappeared almost wholly in the 5th c. ACP
http://www.phoenixmasonry.org/arcane_schools/part_3.htm
ARCANE DISCIPLINE. This system was in vogue in the church of Christ between the first and fourth centuries of our era. ....
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Here's a very extensive entry, which directly links the above Latin term to your German term, under the English entry
"Discipline of the secret"
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05032a.htm
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks, Craig, your links and answers were exactly what I was looking for."
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secret discipline
gets several googles suggesting this as the English translation of Arkanprinzip
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"arcane discipline" also gets its share of googles in this regard
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for "arcane principle" see
http://techhouse.brown.edu/~jleen/calchas/aspects.html
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Webster for "arcanum"=
the mystery of mysteries; specifically: the one ultimate secret supposed to lie behind all astrology, alchemy, and magic
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"arcane discipline" also gets its share of googles in this regard
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for "arcane principle" see
http://techhouse.brown.edu/~jleen/calchas/aspects.html
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Webster for "arcanum"=
the mystery of mysteries; specifically: the one ultimate secret supposed to lie behind all astrology, alchemy, and magic
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mystic discipline / mystic principle
Mainly based on a hunch (plus Jonathan's answer and plenty of Google hits).
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tenet of silence
Unter “mystischem Schweigen” versteht man eigentlich das plötzliche Verstummen nach einem ekstatischen Erlebnis wie einer Vision/Schau (wird z.B. von Thomas v. Aquin berichtet).
www.doctor-angelicus.de/meister.htm
In diesem Sinn wird “mystisches Schweigen” auch heute noch in anderen, journalistischen Kontexten verwendet.
www.weltordnung.de/meinung.htm
Insofern erschließt sich mir die Bedeutung des Satzes
“Im Christentum wurde das mystische Schweigen seit dem 17. Jhdt. 'Arkandisziplin' genannt" nicht so recht...
Aber Du suchst ja auch nur eine Übersetzung für “Arkandisziplin” :-)
Den Definitionen nach handelt es sich dabei um ein Gelöbnis, gewisse esoterische Erkenntnisse/Erlebnisse nur unter Eingeweihten zu besprechen und anderen gegenüber nicht zu offenbaren.
How about ‘observing the tenet of silence/ code of silence/ vow of silence regarding arcance insights/experiences.’
www.doctor-angelicus.de/meister.htm
In diesem Sinn wird “mystisches Schweigen” auch heute noch in anderen, journalistischen Kontexten verwendet.
www.weltordnung.de/meinung.htm
Insofern erschließt sich mir die Bedeutung des Satzes
“Im Christentum wurde das mystische Schweigen seit dem 17. Jhdt. 'Arkandisziplin' genannt" nicht so recht...
Aber Du suchst ja auch nur eine Übersetzung für “Arkandisziplin” :-)
Den Definitionen nach handelt es sich dabei um ein Gelöbnis, gewisse esoterische Erkenntnisse/Erlebnisse nur unter Eingeweihten zu besprechen und anderen gegenüber nicht zu offenbaren.
How about ‘observing the tenet of silence/ code of silence/ vow of silence regarding arcance insights/experiences.’
Peer comment(s):
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Craig Meulen
: I really wanted to agree to your "tenet" - a wonderful English term. But then I found the Latin. Hmm, I'll agree anyway, since it serves as a perfect explanation of what this is all about :-)
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arcanum discipline
Why not go for a literal translation as the explanation in "common" English is included in the sentence anyway. AFAIK, "arcanum discipline" is established in English as well (see e.g. ref. below).
Reference:
http://epublications.bond.edu.au/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1004&context=word_to_silence_II
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esoteric discipline
I'm slightly out of my depth here but my understanding was that this is how we refer to any practice, belief system etc known only to/practised only by a few:
' In Part Three, it becomes clear how the "science of love" is no longer an esoteric discipline for monks and nuns'
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?...
If you want to keep it specific, however, what's wrong with 'arcane discipline'? The phrase seems to have been particularly favoured by Bonhoeffer:
'This, along with a few other tantalizing references to the "arcane discipline" of the early church, suggests that Bonhoeffer believed that...'
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1058/is_9_122/ai_...
'The knowing that would underpin this ‘religionless’ form for individual Christians was what he described as ‘the arcane discipline’'
http://dlibrary.acu.edu.au/research/theology/ejournal/aejt_6...
' In Part Three, it becomes clear how the "science of love" is no longer an esoteric discipline for monks and nuns'
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?...
If you want to keep it specific, however, what's wrong with 'arcane discipline'? The phrase seems to have been particularly favoured by Bonhoeffer:
'This, along with a few other tantalizing references to the "arcane discipline" of the early church, suggests that Bonhoeffer believed that...'
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1058/is_9_122/ai_...
'The knowing that would underpin this ‘religionless’ form for individual Christians was what he described as ‘the arcane discipline’'
http://dlibrary.acu.edu.au/research/theology/ejournal/aejt_6...
Discussion
Thank you for your answers so far. "Arkandisziplin/-prinzip" is a noun, just like Wikipedia explains. It is not equal to "secret/mystic discipline" it is more like "the discipline/principle of secrecy" - so the text is not talking about a particular discipline or principle that is secret, but about the custom of keeping certain things secret. I was just wondering whether there is an equivalent term to "Arkandisziplin/-prinzip" in English.