Glossary entry

German term or phrase:

Herzgeräusche

English translation:

heart murmurs

Added to glossary by Steffen Walter
Jan 18, 2009 22:12
15 yrs ago
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German term

Herzgeräusch

German to English Medical Medical: Cardiology
Ich uebersetze gerade den Arztbrief eines Kleinkindes (Asthma) und bei der Anamnese gab es auch folgenden Befund: Herztoene rein und rhythmisch, kein pathologisches Herzgeraeusch.

Ich habe ein Problem mit diesen zwei Termini. Ich wollte "Herztoene" mit "cardiac sounds" uebersetzen. Soweit, so gut. Das Problem sind die Herzgeraeusche: Normalerweise, wenn man von Herzgeraeuschen spricht, sind sie pathologischer Natur und man wuerde sie mit "heart murmur" uebersetzen. In diesem Fall sind sie aber NICHT pathologisch. Ich glaube, dies dann mit "no pathological heart murmurs" zu uebersetzen, waere nicht in Ordnung. Ginge auch "no pathological cardiac/heart sounds"? Oder was sind Eure Vorschlaege.
Es ist ja herzbezueglich alles ok.

Vielen Dank.
Change log

Jan 18, 2009 22:17: Steffen Walter changed "Term asked" from "Herzgeraeusch" to "Herzgeräusch"

Jan 27, 2009 08:19: Steffen Walter changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/81524">Sibylle Gray's</a> old entry - "Herzgeräusch"" to ""heart murmurs""

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Non-PRO (1): Harald Moelzer (medical-translator)

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Proposed translations

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heart murmurs

term backed by dict.cc (Engl.-German)

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Heart murmurs are most often caused by defective heart valves.
www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=4571 - 45k - Im Cache - Ähnliche Seiten.
Another variant would be <heart sounds>
Peer comment(s):

agree Inge Meinzer
6 mins
danke !
agree Sven Petersson
25 mins
danke !
agree NKW (X)
39 mins
danke !
agree Ivan Nieves
1 hr
danke !
agree KARIN ISBELL : I know it as 'heart murmur'(Einzahl)
2 hrs
danke !
agree Michele Fauble
4 hrs
danke !
agree Harald Moelzer (medical-translator)
6 hrs
thank you !
agree Siegfried Armbruster
8 hrs
danke !
agree Lirka : although indeed in singular, here you should write: no pathological murmurs!
16 hrs
thank you !
agree @caduceus (X)
17 hrs
thank you !
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you very much."
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heart murmurs

Heart murmurs can be physiological or pathological, so it is quite OK to write "no abnormal (heart) murmurs" or "no pathological murmurs". (Unfortunately this does not indicate that whether there was a physiological murmur or not.)

However, it is more common to see simply "no murmurs".

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Note added at 10 mins (2009-01-18 22:22:36 GMT)
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"...does not indicate whether..." - sorry, the mouse is faster than the brain ;-)

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Note added at 11 mins (2009-01-18 22:24:03 GMT)
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Herztoene = heart sounds (first and second)
Note from asker:
Thank you.
Peer comment(s):

agree Andrea Winzer : kids often have "innocent or functional" heart murmurs
11 mins
they certainly do - thanks Andrea :-)
agree Ingeborg Gowans (X) : my initial thought, too
42 mins
thanks :-)
agree Michele Fauble
4 hrs
thanks :-)
agree Harald Moelzer (medical-translator)
6 hrs
thanks :-)
agree Siegfried Armbruster
8 hrs
thanks :-)
agree Lirka : sure
16 hrs
thanks :-)
agree @caduceus (X)
17 hrs
thanks :-)
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52 mins

cardiac murmurs

another option
Note from asker:
Thank you.
Peer comment(s):

agree Alan Wiser, MD : Right, either is correct, but I prefer "cardiac murmur."
3 hrs
Danke Alan
agree Harald Moelzer (medical-translator)
6 hrs
Danke Harald
agree Siegfried Armbruster
7 hrs
Danke Siegfried
neutral Lirka : both correct, but "heart murmur" way more common in the US!
15 hrs
Vielen Dank
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12 hrs

non-pathological or innocent murmur

http://www.zen104556.zen.co.uk/Medicine/Medicine/ClinExamn/M... Murmurs are caused by turbulent blood flow; this may be due to a stenotic or regurgitant valve producing a high velocity jet; alternatively it may be due to increased flow velocity in a normal vessel or to normal velocity flow in a dilated or distorted vessel; non-pathological causes include the murmur of the hyperdynamic system in pregnancy or a minor anatomical distortion with no pathological consequences (innocent murmur).

http://books.google.com.br/books?id=Jv7p3sg9sCIC&pg=PA49&lpg... ...non-pathological murmurs are extremely common in children.

http://www.ljm.org.ly/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid... This new method should reduce the referral volume of non-pathological heart murmur cases to the cardiac centres, and reduce the cost on health care system providers. Moreover, the method is simple, save and cost-effective.
Note from asker:
Thank you.
Peer comment(s):

neutral Lirka : if so, it would be called "physiological murmur", but does not apply here
3 hrs
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