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SDL Studio: I hate it, I hate it, I hate it!
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Michael Beijer  Identity Verified
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Mar 14, 2018

There, got that out of my system.

I have a permanent warning/reminder on my whiteboard that says "NEVER USE STUDIO AGAIN!" because every single time I use the program, something goes wrong at the very end, once I've finished translating, and I end up having to google thousands of error reports and waste a ton of my time.

IMG_3699

I hate this program with a passion. The only reason I use it is because a lot of clients (agencies) own it and are stuck with it.

Michael


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Michael Beijer  Identity Verified
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:-( Mar 14, 2018

...as usual, I am now going to waste at least an hour trying to get my darned project to open, so I can generate the stupid Return package so I can send it to my client. And all this while I need to start on my next job, thankfully one I don't have to use Studio for.

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Anyone know what to do when you get told:

"Cannot validate SDL plug-in: Sdl.ProjectAutomation.AutomaticTasks.WIPReport.WIPReportTask, Sdl.ProjectAutomation.AutomaticTasks.WIPReport, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=c28cdb26c445c888"?

Michael


 

Daniel Frisano
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Try this Mar 14, 2018

Just tell them the facts: you cannot work with the [unprintable]ing thing.

You can work with whatever tool suits you nice.

Generating packages shouldn't be your task anyway: you are a translator, not a PM.


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Paulinho Fonseca  Identity Verified
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Don't let it ruin your entire day! Mar 14, 2018

Have you gone online on the sdl community for help?
https://community.sdl.com/product-groups/translationproductivity/f/90/t/7772


 

Michael Beijer  Identity Verified
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SDL's paid support should be free, seeing as how the program is such a bugfest. Mar 14, 2018

Paulinho Fonseca wrote:

Have you gone online on the sdl community for help?
https://community.sdl.com/product-groups/translationproductivity/f/90/t/7772



Yeah, I'll try that, as usual. It's just that it is SO tedious, having to go ask for help in the Community forums pretty much every time I use the program. Their paid support should be free, seeing as how the program is such a bugfest.


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Rafael Ribeiro
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Funny Mar 14, 2018

When I started working with OmegaT, I had problems like paragraphs gone to oblivion. Once I learned how to fix it, everything was fine. I discussed it with some translators. Most of them say OmegaT sucks and TRADOS is the best, but noone seems to be able to tell me why. Of course, I know that it is almost standard now. Still...

 

Kathryn Britton
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MemoQ?? Mar 14, 2018

MemoQ and Studio are compatible so when I receive a package in Trados, I simply load it into MemoQ, work as normal and then when I create the return package, MemoQ kindly puts it back into Trados for me ....

 

Michael Beijer  Identity Verified
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~ Mar 14, 2018

Kathryn Britton wrote:

MemoQ and Studio are compatible so when I receive a package in Trados, I simply load it into MemoQ, work as normal and then when I create the return package, MemoQ kindly puts it back into Trados for me ....


Yeah, I do something similar: I translate Studio projects in Memsource these days (or CafeTran), but the weakest link is always once the files are back in Studio, to run a final check. It's amazing how often this goes wrong.


 

Michael Beijer  Identity Verified
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OK, solved it. Mar 14, 2018

As usual, the quickest way to solve the problem was to completely uninstall the Studio (using Revo Uninstaller, which removes EVERYTHING, also the stuff in your Windows registry), reinstall it, and then recreate the project and pretranslate it using a separate TM (which I always make sure I have when working with Studio packages/projects).

On to my next job now, thankfully in Memsource this time!

Michael


 

John Fossey  Identity Verified
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Same here Mar 14, 2018

Kathryn Britton wrote:

MemoQ and Studio are compatible so when I receive a package in Trados, I simply load it into MemoQ, work as normal and then when I create the return package, MemoQ kindly puts it back into Trados for me ....


That's what I've been doing for years as well. The client doesn't appear to even know I didn't use Studio.

[Edited at 2018-03-14 17:06 GMT]


 

Robert Rietvelt  Identity Verified
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WOW! Mar 14, 2018

Michael Joseph Wdowiak Beijer wrote:

There, got that out of my system.

I have a permanent warning/reminder on my whiteboard that says "NEVER USE STUDIO AGAIN!" because every single time I use the program, something goes wrong at the very end, once I've finished translating, and I end up having to google thousands of error reports and waste a ton of my time.

IMG_3699

I hate this program with a passion. The only reason I use it is because a lot of clients (agencies) own it and are stuck with it.

Michael


Dear Michael,

I hardly dare to say it after reading your thread, but I am working with Studio since version 2009 (before that with Trados 2007), and I know nothing is perfect, but my Studio(s) (2014/2015) are working just fine. Sorry for the insult.

Could it maybe be you are doing something wrong? (I know hard to imagine, but still....)

Isn't 'hate' a bit too far fetched here?

[Edited at 2018-03-14 20:18 GMT]


 

Mirko Mainardi  Identity Verified
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plug-ins Mar 14, 2018

Michael Joseph Wdowiak Beijer wrote:

Anyone know what to do when you get told:

"Cannot validate SDL plug-in: Sdl.ProjectAutomation.AutomaticTasks.WIPReport.WIPReportTask, Sdl.ProjectAutomation.AutomaticTasks.WIPReport, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=c28cdb26c445c888"?


Remove the plug-ins from Studio and use a vanilla version?


 

Michael Beijer  Identity Verified
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The SDL AppStore Home = a double-edged sword Mar 14, 2018

Mirko Mainardi wrote:

Michael Joseph Wdowiak Beijer wrote:

Anyone know what to do when you get told:

"Cannot validate SDL plug-in: Sdl.ProjectAutomation.AutomaticTasks.WIPReport.WIPReportTask, Sdl.ProjectAutomation.AutomaticTasks.WIPReport, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=c28cdb26c445c888"?


Remove the plug-ins from Studio and use a vanilla version?


Yeah, that is indeed often the source of the problems: plugins. Although the SDL AppStore is a great idea, and has many potential benefits, it can also result in an even more unstable program, which in Studio's case means a very unstable program indeed.

As I mentioned above though, I managed to solve the problem, this time, by doing the following:

As usual, the quickest way to solve the problem was to completely uninstall the Studio (using Revo Uninstaller, which removes EVERYTHING, also the stuff in your Windows registry), reinstall it, and then recreate the project and pretranslate it using a separate TM (which I always make sure I have when working with Studio packages/projects).


 

Mirko Mainardi  Identity Verified
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Extirpation Mar 14, 2018

Michael Joseph Wdowiak Beijer wrote:

Mirko Mainardi wrote:

Remove the plug-ins from Studio and use a vanilla version?


Yeah, that is indeed often the source of the problems: plugins. Although the SDL AppStore is a great idea, and has many potential benefits, it can also result in an even more unstable program, which in Studio's case means a very unstable program indeed.

As I mentioned above though, I managed to solve the problem, this time, by doing the following:

As usual, the quickest way to solve the problem was to completely uninstall the Studio (using Revo Uninstaller, which removes EVERYTHING, also the stuff in your Windows registry), reinstall it, and then recreate the project and pretranslate it using a separate TM (which I always make sure I have when working with Studio packages/projects).


Yes, I had read your solution (which is kind of radical, as per subject), however, like you, I too believe plug-ins might be causing added instability to an already "problematic" piece of... software, and, like you, I too don't particularly like Studio, or the fact it still (inexplicably) dominates the market... but in my case it's mostly because I find it unnecessarily complicated, bloated and cumbersome. In the past I've had my fair share of technical issues (tied to Java, Nalpeiron or whatnot), and that didn't certainly do any good to my general disposition toward it.

BTW, I'm still on 2015 with the upgrade to 2017 still pending (and I think I haven't used it in months anyway). I usually don't even bid if a client mentions Studio as THE required CAT tool, but I guess Kathryn and John have a point, although I think I'd feel very uneasy if I were to accept a "Trados-only" project and then work on it with another tool (MemoQ in my case)...


 

Jo Macdonald  Identity Verified
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Who is it that blames his tools again? Mar 15, 2018

Micheal your "NEVER AGIN" pic made me laugh but I reckon you just need to learn how to use it mate.

My experience is quite the opposite.
I started using SDLX when that came out in the dark ages, switched to Trados, then Studio, when the companies merged.

Personally I've never had any major problems with the programs, and any minor problems were often caused by hang-ups in the original file being processed, busted tables, stuff like that.

In my case
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Micheal your "NEVER AGIN" pic made me laugh but I reckon you just need to learn how to use it mate.

My experience is quite the opposite.
I started using SDLX when that came out in the dark ages, switched to Trados, then Studio, when the companies merged.

Personally I've never had any major problems with the programs, and any minor problems were often caused by hang-ups in the original file being processed, busted tables, stuff like that.

In my case if I get a MemoQ job I'll translate the mqxliff file in Studio, never had a problem with this, and I wouldn't touch Memsource even with a long pointy stick and thick rubber gloves on. I get about 10 mails a week from one client warning everyone their MemoQ server is up the spout, so if you're working with that online you're fu......ed, but do I care with my good old trusty Studio on my own computer at home? Naaaah.
But, then again, maybe I should learn to use more tools.
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